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Omnathious Deninard
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:13:00 -
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CCP Fozzie, these changes look great, can't wait to use an Eos finally.
What about the orca? It is a command ship and I believe you said it was going to be part of the command ship balance pass.
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:26:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:CCP Fozzie, these changes look great, can't wait to use an Eos finally.
What about the orca? It is a command ship and I believe you said it was going to be part of the command ship balance pass. I sure hope I never said that  It's not being changed as part of this pass.
Well here you go.
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:32:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:CCP Fozzie, these changes look great, can't wait to use an Eos finally.
What about the orca? It is a command ship and I believe you said it was going to be part of the command ship balance pass. I sure hope I never said that It's not being changed as part of this pass. Well here you go. Ahh yes, I was talking about the bonuses to the links themselves. We did consider shifting some of the mining bonuses away from the ship hulls but in the end decided to leave them at 3% and 5%.
I see, I was hoping the Orca would get a Siege warfare link bonus in addition to its mining link bonus, and since non-mining links can't be used in a pos I don't believe it would be broken.
Just for reference the Rorqual gives 10% while deployed, or is that being changed?
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:03:00 -
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sten mattson wrote:is the heavy drone tracking bonus of the eos applied to sentries as well?
No, just the microwarp velocity part.
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:50:00 -
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Hathrul wrote:so minmatar and gallente command ships get a local rep bonus which makes them useless in fleet fights and reduce them to small scale fights with active tank or off-grid boosting
i thought you wanted to get rid of off-grid boosting? why cant all races have 1 local tank boost and 1 buffer tank version so all races have a viable choice for either situation
Gallente and Minmatar get local rep bonuses yes they both also get skirmish warfare links which makes them better for small scale fights, kind of like local reps
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:51:00 -
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Harvey James wrote:Tobias Hareka wrote:Harvey James wrote:The damnation still has the 10% HP bonus really OP comes to mind.... Quote:Also was expecting more HP Are you sure? Quote:EOS has a Hybrid tracking bonus why? It's brawler? It uses blasters? EOS is a droneboat.........
So is the Tristan
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:56:00 -
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TrouserDeagle wrote:Oh lol, another gallente drone ship with a turret tracking bonus. So the eos has 3 bonuses while everyone else has 4?
The Eos is a close range Brawler, hence the bonus to heavy drones only. the tracking bonus makes blasters and heavy drones a deadly combo.
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Posted - 2013.08.01 16:00:00 -
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Cpt Boomstick wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:
Absolution:
Fittings: 1500 PWG (-75),
Damnation:
Fittings: 1300(-290) PWG
Astarte:
Fittings: 1350 PWG (-100)
Eos:
Fittings: 1200 PWG (-225)
Sleipnir:
Fittings: 1300 PWG (-160)
Claymore:
Fittings: 1100 PWG (-290)
Nighthawk:
Fittings: 825 PWG (+115), 550 CPU (-5)
So many of these ships are already super tight on powergrid using a proper fit. I see here most of them are actually getting powergrid reductions in the same context of wanting to have them include ganglinks on board which use 200 powergrid each just for the t1 version. I also included the nighthawk here which is notoriously tight on CPU and its actually losing another 5 cpu. This really doesn't make any sense to me.
links got a 100mw grid reduction.
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Posted - 2013.08.01 16:09:00 -
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Harvey James wrote:Also why does the vulture need 2 optimal range bonuses to use blasters? .... its not a sniper come on damage or tracking please
Might be because Caldari mostly uses Railguns and not blasters. One could even argue that Railguns and Blasters work on 2 completely different theories and should be separated, but that is for a different thread.
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Posted - 2013.08.02 16:19:00 -
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I have to agree that either the rep bonus needs to also be a cap reduction, or armor reps need to have there base cap use reduced.
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Posted - 2013.08.03 12:40:00 -
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Diesel47 wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Grarr Dexx wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:It's not being changed. Given up on trying to justify the Astarte nerf? Astarte is fine l2p Kinda hating these changes. l2dev.
The saddest part about this quote monstrosity is CCP Fozzie completely played into the troll.
CCP Fozzie wrote:It's not being changed.
This was part of a discussion regarding the rorqual deployed mining bonus.
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Posted - 2013.08.04 05:46:00 -
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Jerick Ludhowe wrote:Naoru Kozan wrote:Roime wrote:On ships using weapons like heavy drones and blasters, local rep bonuses fit the bill. Gallente CSes are not meant for sov blobs. +1 Not everyone wants to fly in a biggass blob and get vollied off the field. Not everyone wants to fly ships that are only good for station games and high sec duels either... This is exactly the reason why each race should have 1 Buffer brick for fleet work, and 1 active tanked ganker for solo/small gang...
Skirmish wrote:
Noun
An episode of irregular or unpremeditated fighting, esp. between small or outlying parts of armies or fleets.
I think this describes Gallente and Minmatar combat styles quite well, and with that active rep bonuses are fine.
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Posted - 2013.08.07 15:45:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Update time!
We've also got updates in the gang links and bonuses thread that you will all probably want to read.
Absolution:
-200 Shield
+100 Armor
+100 Hull
Damnation:
+100 Shield
-300 Armor
+100 Hull
Nighthawk:
+75 PWG
Shifting strength between the two dps bonuses adds 1 effective launcher (now 11) and especially increases damage dealt with non-kin missiles. Post-patch Nighthawk does the same damage with non-kin missiles as current nighthawk, and 1 more effective launcher with kin. (Plus all the other buffs)
Kinetic missile bonus changed to 7.5% per level of Caldari BC
Missile RoF bonus changed to 7.5% per level of Command Ships
Astarte:
+100 Armor
Shifting strength between the bonuses adds an extra 1 effective turret (11, vs 10 in the initial proposal and 10.9 on TQ now).
Medium Hybrid damage bonus changed to 7.5% per level of Gallente BC
Medium Hybrid RoF bonus changed to 7.5% per level of Command Ships
Eos:
-300 Shield
+500 Armor
+300 Hull
We're moving the gang link bonuses for command ships back to the command ships skill, at 3% per level instead of the 15% role bonus.
I recognize that a lot of people are unhappy with the existence of active repair bonuses on half of these ships, but I think that giving all command ships buffer bonuses isn't the right way to go. I believe that the four skirmish bonused command ships will all be viable for people who choose not to use the repair bonuses after this patch.
Will they be getting a 3rd command ship bonus then or will we be losing the replaced bonus?
What about the very slender drone bay of the Eos?
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Posted - 2013.08.07 16:15:00 -
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CCP Fozzie, any chance of changing command processors into rigs?
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Posted - 2013.08.07 16:27:00 -
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That will help out tremendously when it comes to balancing links, T3 ships, Shield vs Armor and command ships.
If it can be done that is.
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:02:00 -
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It would be kind of neat to see Caldari get an equivalent to the Damnation, it shield recharge rate would need to adjusted accordingly.
For Gallente the Eos would neat to see it get a remote armor repair bonus to range and cap usage.
Gallente Battlecruisers :
+10% Drone Damage and HP per level
+100% Remote Armor Repair Unit range per level
Command Ships:
+7.5% Heavy Drone Tracking and Microwarp Velocity per level
-5% capacitor needs of remote armor repair units per level
+3% to the strength of Armored Warfare and Skirmish Warfare links per level
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Posted - 2013.08.08 03:45:00 -
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Caldess wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:It would be kind of neat to see Caldari get an equivalent to the Damnation, it shield recharge rate would need to adjusted accordingly.
For Gallente it would neat to see the Eos get a remote armor repair bonus to range and cap usage.
Gallente Battlecruisers :
+10% Drone Damage and HP per level
+100% Remote Armor Repair Unit range per level
Command Ships:
+7.5% Heavy Drone Tracking and Microwarp Velocity per level
-5% capacitor needs of remote armor repair units per level
+3% to the strength of Armored Warfare and Skirmish Warfare links per level
I don't know for minmatar, but it would most likely involve the Claymore as most would rage if the Sleipnir got touched.
This would give Caldari and Amarr solid large fleet command ships, Gallente and Minmatar good small gang command ships. Why would you EVER fit remote repair mods on a command ship? You dont really think that while im FCing in that ship i got time to repair someone and give it the attention it needs to be valuable?
Yeah, in retrospect it was a bad idea, and I feel bad for it.
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:43:00 -
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Balzac Legazou wrote:Florian Kuehne wrote:
Why are you boosting the Field Command Ships so hard [...] the abylity to use gangmodules with bonuses too, in comparison to the Fleet Command Ships? [...] The two ships are like equal with the changes, i really dont get it...
Me neither. All the dev posts here seem to ignore the fact that there are two different kinds of command ships (and there doesn't seem to be any sense of identity for them). Maybe they're trying to get rid of fleet command ships entirely, and just don't want to say it explicitly? The most ironic thing, of course, is that those two sub-classes would be perfect to solve the complaint most people have about the currently proposed changes: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3461970#post3461970Additionally, fleet command ships should have some benefit in terms of links (either 1 more link or a stronger bonus to the links).
Yes they did hit rid of the two types of command ships, and they were very spoken about it the re-balancing the future dev blog.
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Posted - 2013.08.12 23:19:00 -
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I'm Down wrote:So the general Idea I'm hearing is an Eos with:
300 drone bay
100 bandwidth
+1 drone controlled per level
+ 10% to drone mwd speed and tracking
+ 10% to HP and drone damage
+ 10% to Armor HP
Would top out just under 800 dps with 10 medium drones, 3 DDAs and perfect skills, but lets face it, mediums are really easy to pop....and it's still under the dps of an Astarte by a long shot.
The funny thing about medium drones, is they do exactly 1/2 the damage of a large drone. So 10 medium drones do the exact same damage as 5 large drones just not as much HP as large drones.
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Posted - 2013.08.14 15:23:00 -
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Can we get a bit more drone bay for the Eos please, 2 flights of heavies is quite limiting, maybe 300 just enough to carry a extra set of smaller drones.
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